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PostSubject: BAF BRITISH NOVICE - SATURDAY 24th NOVEMBER 2012    BAF BRITISH NOVICE - SATURDAY 24th NOVEMBER 2012    EmptySun 26 Feb - 15:31

VENUE TBC
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PostSubject: Re: BAF BRITISH NOVICE - SATURDAY 24th NOVEMBER 2012    BAF BRITISH NOVICE - SATURDAY 24th NOVEMBER 2012    EmptyWed 13 Jun - 14:16

can you tell me if the weight classes are the same as the british national ie -90 -100 -110 +110
thanks andy
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PostSubject: Re: BAF BRITISH NOVICE - SATURDAY 24th NOVEMBER 2012    BAF BRITISH NOVICE - SATURDAY 24th NOVEMBER 2012    EmptyTue 7 Aug - 18:11

Hi guys

I can now confirm that this years BAF british novice championships will be held at

the crofters hotel on the A6 at cabus near garstang,lancashire

saturday november 24th

weigh in 1.30 till 2pm for a 2.30 sharp event start time

right and left arm classes are men

65kg,75kg,90kg,100kg,100kg plus

ladies open

plus pro supermatches throughout the day

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PostSubject: Re: BAF BRITISH NOVICE - SATURDAY 24th NOVEMBER 2012    BAF BRITISH NOVICE - SATURDAY 24th NOVEMBER 2012    EmptyTue 7 Aug - 20:30

Is there no -80 or -85 class this year?
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PostSubject: Re: BAF BRITISH NOVICE - SATURDAY 24th NOVEMBER 2012    BAF BRITISH NOVICE - SATURDAY 24th NOVEMBER 2012    EmptyTue 7 Aug - 21:58

Apparently not mike, no idea why
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PostSubject: Re: BAF BRITISH NOVICE - SATURDAY 24th NOVEMBER 2012    BAF BRITISH NOVICE - SATURDAY 24th NOVEMBER 2012    EmptyWed 8 Aug - 18:47

probably because there aren't enough pullers to fill the classes and at novice level i don't think there is any difference in strength from 75 to 90kg.
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PostSubject: Re: BAF BRITISH NOVICE - SATURDAY 24th NOVEMBER 2012    BAF BRITISH NOVICE - SATURDAY 24th NOVEMBER 2012    EmptyWed 8 Aug - 19:49

If i remember correctly, there were around 13 or 14 pullers in the -80's last year and around 10 in the -90s. Also i beg to differ on the strength difference over 15 kgs, this is the difference in strength between (at the time of last years british novice) Craig Connoley in -70's and Alex Atkinson who weighed around 85kgs. I think it's fair to say, with all due respect, aside from a select few, most pullers would be at an unfair disadvantage with a weight difference this great.
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PostSubject: Re: BAF BRITISH NOVICE - SATURDAY 24th NOVEMBER 2012    BAF BRITISH NOVICE - SATURDAY 24th NOVEMBER 2012    EmptyWed 8 Aug - 22:40

I'd agree that -80 is always a busy class. a 15kg foldage in the 'middle' weight with 10kg foldage above below seems alittle strange to me, esp when pro's is 5kg brackets.

imo the term 'novice' is often more of measure of experience and technique, than power and speed. Therefore; it's more important that novice pullers are well matched and weight is a key factor in this.





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PostSubject: Re: BAF BRITISH NOVICE - SATURDAY 24th NOVEMBER 2012    BAF BRITISH NOVICE - SATURDAY 24th NOVEMBER 2012    EmptyThu 9 Aug - 9:53

75kg against a 90kg...a definite power difference IMO.
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PostSubject: Re: BAF BRITISH NOVICE - SATURDAY 24th NOVEMBER 2012    BAF BRITISH NOVICE - SATURDAY 24th NOVEMBER 2012    EmptyThu 9 Aug - 19:10

defo no right but !!!
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PostSubject: Re: BAF BRITISH NOVICE - SATURDAY 24th NOVEMBER 2012    BAF BRITISH NOVICE - SATURDAY 24th NOVEMBER 2012    EmptyMon 20 Aug - 16:51

WHOS TAKING PART THIS YEAR IN THE BRITISH NOVICE Question
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PostSubject: british novice   BAF BRITISH NOVICE - SATURDAY 24th NOVEMBER 2012    EmptyMon 20 Aug - 17:55

i am & brian is from sussexarms
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PostSubject: Re: BAF BRITISH NOVICE - SATURDAY 24th NOVEMBER 2012    BAF BRITISH NOVICE - SATURDAY 24th NOVEMBER 2012    EmptyMon 20 Aug - 20:54

im in anyway mate.
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PostSubject: Re: BAF BRITISH NOVICE - SATURDAY 24th NOVEMBER 2012    BAF BRITISH NOVICE - SATURDAY 24th NOVEMBER 2012    EmptyWed 22 Aug - 17:28

Freak wrote:
If i remember correctly, there were around 13 or 14 pullers in the -80's last year and around 10 in the -90s. Also i beg to differ on the strength difference over 15 kgs, this is the difference in strength between (at the time of last years british novice) Craig Connoley in -70's and Alex Atkinson who weighed around 85kgs. I think it's fair to say, with all due respect, aside from a select few, most pullers would be at an unfair disadvantage with a weight difference this great.

Hi Guys,

Just to pick up on the point of Weight Classes in the British Novice Championships.

As Dan Thomas corrected suggested, the decision on number of classes was taken puerly as a result of numbers involved & was actually intended to improve the classes for the Pullers involved within them.

To Answer Mike's question in 2011 British Novice there were :

5 Pullers in -70kg Right & 5 Pullers Left
10 Pullers in -80kg Right & 8 Pullers Left
7 Pullers at -90kg both Right & Left.
9 Pullers at -90kg Right & 5 Pullers Left.

Sorry to burst the myth BUT to be honest there really isn't a great deal of difference in Strength in terms of the front Runners at -75kg & -90kg.

World level Armwrestling & indeed our own domestic scene has clearly illustrated through the years however I appreciate that this point is not necessarily consistent when applied across a specific set of Armwrestlers in a given area at a particular point in time.

Look, ultimately guys, the reason for doing the British Novice Championships, is for your clubs to have the opportunity to bring through your Armwrestlers.

If therefore you "The Clubs" & instructors would prefer the Classes to be on the 10's ie. 70kg 80kg 90kg 100kg & +100kg then I have no issues whatsoever in changing them to reflect your wishes.

If the individual Club representatives would like to confirm whether you prefer :

A.) - 65kg / -75kg / -90kg / 100kg / +100kg
or
B.) -70kg / -80kg / -90kg / 100kg / +100kg

We will go with the preferred option.

There has never been a reflection of the Pro Classes (which are set in line with the WAF classes) for many years and there is no justifiable requirement for this to be the case

Regards

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PostSubject: Re: BAF BRITISH NOVICE - SATURDAY 24th NOVEMBER 2012    BAF BRITISH NOVICE - SATURDAY 24th NOVEMBER 2012    EmptyTue 28 Aug - 20:35

i`d defo say B mate everybody is defferant in all ways, i think it should be made so that it`s evened out just 2 keep your self right and the guys that are pulling
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PostSubject: weights   BAF BRITISH NOVICE - SATURDAY 24th NOVEMBER 2012    EmptyTue 28 Aug - 21:01

hi guys the lower weight groups i will never be at but should we see how turns up then see if it need to be A or B scratch
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PostSubject: Re: BAF BRITISH NOVICE - SATURDAY 24th NOVEMBER 2012    BAF BRITISH NOVICE - SATURDAY 24th NOVEMBER 2012    EmptyWed 31 Oct - 13:40

I'm working down in London on Sunday and need to travel down the night before, so I won't be able to attend.

My picks are Bradley Martinez, Colin Williams, Craig Gittens and Big Joe from Panthers.

Good luck everyone. Pull hard and stay safe!

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