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PostSubject: predictions for 2011 season in the novice ranks   predictions for 2011 season in the novice ranks EmptyThu 31 Mar - 17:24

whos your predictions for 2011 season in the novice ranks...

who your picks to be in the top 3 Question



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PostSubject: Re: predictions for 2011 season in the novice ranks   predictions for 2011 season in the novice ranks EmptyThu 31 Mar - 20:35

bounce IN NO ORDER bounce

95 kilo plus class


magic = paul maidens novice.
martin maclay
matt fox
donald fraser
melvyn
ricky jones
vinny jones



95 kilo class

mick walsh
nathan
Tyzzer77
alex atkinson
david harrison
anthony
tony the tank Question
wayne spicers

85 kilo class

phil samspon
leon macey
leo

75 kilo class

anil
micheal = freak

65 kilo class

alex tennet
colin taylor
darren taylor
adrian magurie
jerome bloom




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95kg pluss

magic = paul maidens novice
martin maclay
matt fox
donald fraser
melvyn
ricky jones
vinny jones



90 kilo class

mat wilson
mick walsh
nathan
Tyzzer77
alex atkinson
david harrison
anthony
tony the tank Question
wayne spicers
leo finley
aingie
dean scarsbrooks son ?

80 kilo class

phil samspon
leon macey
anil
collin williams
michael hughes


65 kilo class

alex tennet
colin taylor
darren taylor
adrian magurie
jerome bloom

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95kg Plus
Rob Frampton
Matt Fox
Magic


95kg
Jason 'Captain Caveman' Kelham
Wayne Spicers
Alex Atkinson


85kg
Steve Harris
Phil Samspon
Leon Macey

I will be there, trying to crack the top 3.............

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Harris and Sampson will be one to watch !!!!... Mr Sampson is hungry.
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I need to step in here SAMPSON can't be a novice he beat British champion last time out Harris finished 3rd in pro class,Rob and Jason are novice champions and Jason is a pro medalist at NYC clear guidelines need to be obtained or Iam pulling at the next event!!!

As for my guys I have some talent but it will take atleast 12 months to nuture them into compititive novice pullers
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PostSubject: Re: predictions for 2011 season in the novice ranks   predictions for 2011 season in the novice ranks EmptyFri 1 Apr - 18:05

i thought the rules where you can enter the novice util you come 1st, its what ive been training for i cant help if my training helps beat a few pro's. so ill be at the novice as i still am one.
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PostSubject: Re: predictions for 2011 season in the novice ranks   predictions for 2011 season in the novice ranks EmptyFri 1 Apr - 18:27

i agree with phil, neil said last year on here that you can enter the british novice unless you've won it, then you can't enter again and i guess you become "pro". Steve harris got 2x 3rds in brits 2010 (i was 4th) then entered the british novice 2010 later on and won both arms.
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PostSubject: Re: predictions for 2011 season in the novice ranks   predictions for 2011 season in the novice ranks EmptyFri 1 Apr - 18:31

I am not sure about that as I don't no of any set rules,but if that's the case then knowles,clay,henderson,shaw,mitchell,wikson,ginge,sowah,burnell,sanders,greaves,and I don't no how many more who didn't win british novice could still in theory pull?but yet most have a natiobal title medal or mnore so were does the line get drawn ???
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PostSubject: Re: predictions for 2011 season in the novice ranks   predictions for 2011 season in the novice ranks EmptyFri 1 Apr - 19:09

no idea, the previous discussion didn't get anywhere really bar neil saying if you win the novice you can't enter it again.
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PostSubject: Re: predictions for 2011 season in the novice ranks   predictions for 2011 season in the novice ranks EmptyFri 1 Apr - 19:39

True Leon,
I beat 12 competitors in Northwest novice but some novices there from all parts of britain at that time, Paul Mitchell did same and also won champion of champions.
Although as for myself at moment my level is under par but I'm not phased with having a go and pulling any wrestlers win or lose, but then I feel theres a few pullers out there who after winning alot and being at the top if they werent 100% then they wouldnt have a go cos theyd be to vain, egotistical, arogant Maybe my words arnt put together to good but I think winning to much could be a weakness in its own way.
Maybe the trouble is theres alot of different levels in each weight group pro and novice. ?
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PostSubject: Re: predictions for 2011 season in the novice ranks   predictions for 2011 season in the novice ranks EmptyFri 1 Apr - 19:43

!$AMP$ON! wrote:
i thought the rules where you can enter the novice util you come 1st, its what ive been training for i cant help if my training helps beat a few pro's. so ill be at the novice as i still am one.

why is your title pro if your still pulling novice , ill change that till YOU MAKE YOUR MIND UP
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PostSubject: Re: predictions for 2011 season in the novice ranks   predictions for 2011 season in the novice ranks EmptyFri 1 Apr - 19:59

MIGHTY PAUL wrote:
I need to step in here SAMPSON can't be a novice he beat British champion last time out Harris finished 3rd in pro class,Rob and Jason are novice champions and Jason is a pro medalist at NYC clear guidelines need to be obtained or Iam pulling at the next event!!!

As for my guys I have some talent but it will take atleast 12 months to nuture them into compititive novice pullers

I am with you here Paul, this is what i've been saying for a long time,

As far as i'm concerned if you have pulled comps consistently, trained for years or placed in the medals at open class, you are not a novice. If it were the case that you have to finish first in a novice comp, then i am still a novice, also does that mean that you can finish second for 10 years and still be regarded as a novice?

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PostSubject: Re: predictions for 2011 season in the novice ranks   predictions for 2011 season in the novice ranks EmptyFri 1 Apr - 20:05

The word "Novice" means your New to it.... it doesnt state how good you are... Phils new however you look at it... it would put quite a few off to throw them straight into the pros just because they happen to be good at it..
You gota give the boys a chance... I know he beat Ted and Chris, but got beat by Steve harris last time. Sure he can compete with the big guns, but hes very new..

I think neils on the mark with win novice, move to pro... or if you feel you can deal with it then make the choice yourself to step up when your confident enough..


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PostSubject: Re: predictions for 2011 season in the novice ranks   predictions for 2011 season in the novice ranks EmptyFri 1 Apr - 20:09

All I no is if you beat the British champion maybe he missed go etc but to beat 2 (wilson) then you just got 6 numbers on the lotto

Glory hunters lol!
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LOL......
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PostSubject: Re: predictions for 2011 season in the novice ranks   predictions for 2011 season in the novice ranks EmptyFri 1 Apr - 20:14

Nobody is making it a witch hunt on Phil he's just a great example but how long do you have to be in the sport before you are considered to be in it long enough to be pro?

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to avoid any more repetition on this we obviously need firm rules differentiating between novice and pro pullers. Atm what we have was neil saying last year (after some people objected to wayne pulling the novice) that if you havent won the british novice you can enter it so thats the rule i've worked under.

If i'd thought entering the brits or nyc would rule me out of doing the british novice again i'd have given those comps a miss as id like to win the british novice then turn pro. But i'm up for pulling anyone so i entered those comps anyway for the experience.
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Neils the man....
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PostSubject: Re: predictions for 2011 season in the novice ranks   predictions for 2011 season in the novice ranks EmptyFri 1 Apr - 20:34

Ever one as a point , as for phil , yes he as beat a few good pullers , and until he stops pulling novice , he will still be classes as a novice .

so like dean says let him make the call , think i pulled like 2 novice comps and did shit then wanted to pull pro , so i did and i never entered a novice comp since i made that decision.
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PostSubject: Re: predictions for 2011 season in the novice ranks   predictions for 2011 season in the novice ranks EmptyFri 1 Apr - 20:48

Neils the Man to ask.

I think maybe...

if we had enough pullers in uk like America and Russia etc

we could follow what their countries do

Full rules.

anyway lads its my birthday today so im polishing another wine off. Tasty Rosy

be back in Gym tomorrow cardio.

Never mind Pro Novice class THINK safety, and full credit to the trainers in this sport
Nick Hall, Neil Pickup, Paul Maiden, Rod Lenette, Steve Kirlew to say a few...

well done guys the sport LIVES ON !!!

See You in Switzerland

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MIGHTY PAUL wrote:
Nobody is making it a witch hunt on Phil he's just a great example but how long do you have to be in the sport before you are considered to be in it long enough to be pro?

GLORY HUNTING Embarassed
i agree here i think its based on how well you perform , whats the point in pulling novices if you can beat them all , you may aswell step up to the next level
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Im pulling the novice i lost last time and that lost made me train harder so i want to feel like its paid of.
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!$AMP$ON! wrote:
Im pulling the novice i lost last time and that lost made me train harder so i want to feel like its paid of.

You beat 2 British champions Iam no professor but doesn't that say something like your training paid of scratch

GLORY HUNTERS lol!
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hi paul i just thought the point of a novice was to win and then be classed not as a novice ? is that not right ? thanks
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